Bloggers Take To Keyboards On Wyden-Ryan Medicare Plan

By Andrew Villegas

December 15th, 2011, 2:35 PM

Yesterday, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., rocked the health policy world with a new, bipartisan plan to reform Medicare. The two lawmakers propose to change the program for the elderly and disabled by giving beneficiaries a fixed amount to use on health insurance coverage. The plan would preserve traditional Medicare for those that prefer it, but would also open the program to private insurance providers who would be required to offer coverage at levels equal to the federal program.

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The blogosphere was ablaze with comments on what the plan means for Medicare, for beneficiaries and for the 2012 political season.

At his Wonkblog, Ezra Klein writes that Ryan and Wyden want to bring health care reform concepts to Medicare: “The Ryden plan is part of an ongoing attempt by the Republican Party to carve out a more politically sustainable position on Medicare reform. Conservative activists might like Ryan’s original plan, but voters don’t. Wonks might admire its boldness, but they admit that its numbers don’t add up. … [T]he competition is driven by tying the subsidy to the second-least expensive plan in the market. That way, the system gives beneficiaries a financial incentive to choose the cheaper plan. That is exactly — exactly! — how the Affordable Care Act works” (12/15).

Aaron Carroll, of The Incidential Economist, also says the plan shares some common threads with the health reform law, but with a big difference. “It sets actuarial minimums, it demands guaranteed issue and community ratings, it sets the subsidies by competitive bidding, and it allows for plan switching. But it’s different than the ACA in that it contains a fee-for-service public option.

“I expect that those who are dyed-in-the-wool single payer supporters will oppose this, as it can be seen as the first step towards dismantling traditional Medicare. I expect that those who are dyed-in-the-wool free marketeers will oppose this because it doesn’t do enough to dismantle traditional Medicare. But everyone else is going to be in a bit of a pickle” (12/15).

Bob Laszewski writes at his Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review blog that the plan’s concept “borrows heavily from one championed by former New Mexico Senator Pete Domenici and former Clinton budget chief Alice Rivlin.” Laszewski has been arguing on this blog “that the risk for health care costs rising too quickly should not be borne entirely by seniors — that the stakeholders who really run the system should be most accountable. And, that is what the Wyden-Ryan plan would do” (12/14).

Yuval Levin, at The Corner blog at National Review, opines about the plan’s competitive bidding component: “In a sense, competitive bidding is an even more market-based reform than the original Ryan proposal; it’s a way for those of us who believe that markets can help control health-care costs to show confidence in our expectations of competition. If market forces do drive costs down, as conservative health-care experts expect, the reform would save an enormous amount of money, leaving both our budget and our health-care system in vastly better shape. If market forces do not drive costs down sufficiently, then we would have to find another way to address our entitlement costs. We would be back where we started, which is where most Democrats want to end up anyway” (12/14).

At Think Progress’ Health blog, Igor Volsky worries about some of the plan’s problems: “Connecting the premium support credits to the second lowest plan in any given geographic area would shift less costs to seniors than determining the credits independent of the actual bids (via indexing), but in high cost Medicare areas, the second lowest plan will be cheaper than coverage available through traditional Medicare. Thus, seniors who chose to stay in the fee-for-service could still experience a cost-shift: they would be responsible for the difference between the amount of the premium credit and the actual cost of the policy (conversely, if a ‘senior chose a plan that cost less than the benchmark, he or she would be given a rebate for the difference’). Lower-income residents would receive additional assistance.

“But the larger problem is that competition between traditional Medicare and private plans — which, the plan says “would foster innovation and quality, while ensuring that the program is financially stable” — could also allow private plans to cherry-pick the healthiest beneficiaries and leave sicker applicants to traditional Medicare (12/15).

Matthew Yglesias writes at his Moneybox blog at Slate that the plan sees Ryan jump left while getting Wyden to accept Medicare privatization: “Relative to the Medicare status quo, this would be a gigantic rightward leap. But relative to where Paul Ryan was 12 months ago, it’s a gigantic leftward leap. Most notably, there’s at least some reason to believe that competitive bidding between private and public Medicare providers will generate some real cost savings. But if publicly run Medicare continues to be the most cost-effective option for most people (as I think there’s every reason to believe it will be) the vast majority of elderly people will still be basically getting insurance from Medicare” (12/15).

Ed Morrissey at the Hot Air blog writes that the plan may give some Democrats fighting for re-election a reason to join up with Wyden and Ryan. “If Wyden gets a few more Democrats to join the agreement — and there is no shortage of red-state Democrats looking to get re-elected this cycle and needing some bipartisan cover — the deal will make Obama look like the extremist, not Ryan and the Republicans.  It also eliminates the argument that the federal government needs to run all of the health-care industry as it does for seniors. … This is the first inkling that Congress can actually act on this crisis, and if Obama tries to stamp it out in order to selfishly protect a political advantage, then we should make sure to headline it in screaming letters” (12/15).

4 Responses to “Bloggers Take To Keyboards On Wyden-Ryan Medicare Plan”

  1. Richard says:

    The Wyden/Ryan plan does not change my mind about my PA Congressman. My PA Congressman voted for the Ryan 2012 Budget Plan early in 2011. The Ryan 2012 Budget proposed to turn Medicare into a voucher program. That would be a fundamental change to Medicare and would possibly put seniors at risk for higher costs or less coverages. Medicare beneficiaries and those who will soon become Medicare beneficiaries have paid into Medicare over an entire working career. Like Social Security, Medicare is an entitlement. The word “Entitlement” is not a dirty word! Those who paid into Medicare and Social Security were promised these benefits. Medicare and Social Security are not gifts. Seniors earned these benefits. The Wyden/Ryan Medicare Plan will not change my mind about my PA Congressman. Because he voted for the Ryan 2012 Budget Plan, I will never support him again. Never! He has betrayed senior citizens!

  2. I just finished reading “Straight Talk From a Blogger” by Ron Gludt. As a professional blogger, I enjoy reading books about blogging and from fellow bloggers. This is not written as a blog resource guide but rather as a political commentary of our times. I thought the book was well written, with very well thought out arguments. As the title suggests, there is a lot of strait talk in the offering.

  3. Erik says:

    Ryan/Wyden Medicare Plan? Is this a joke, or what? Why in the world would a progressive Democrat, someone who has always championed the cause to end poverty and hunger in America, jump in bed with a person who makes no apologies about trying to end our most needed and popular traditional social programs, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. It’s no secret where Congressman Paul Ryan stands on Medicare. His 2012 Budget Plan is proof that Ryan will stop at nothing to see an end to traditional Medicare. For Senator Ron Wyden to put his name next to Paul Ryan completely changes my opinion of Wyden. I’ve read a summary of the Wyden/Ryan proposal and it stinks! Plain and simple! In my opinion, today’s seniors and soon to be seniors will suffer under Wyden/Ryan. In my opinion, those who have been faithfully paying their payroll deductions into the Medicare program for 10, 20, 30 or even 40 years will be hurt by Wyden/Ryan. If you want to do anything to improve Medicare, let the Affordable Care Act (ACA) become fully implemented and allow for the individual mandate. The ACA is not 100 percent effective yet. When it is, the ACA promises savings to “overall” health care costs for every American, not just seniors. The individual mandate brings millions of Americans into the risk pool to help with those costs. Of course, there are provisions to the ACA where poor people will be subsidized. However, even a moron knows that the bigger the risk pool, the less cost there is for everyone who participates. Medicare will be helped when the ACA is completely up and running. Oh, by the way, maybe you can ask Paul Ryan to stop “unfunded” spending on The Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy or the “unfunded” spending for wars in insane and remote places like Iraq and Afghanistan or maybe Paul Ryan could propose negotiating for lower Medicare Part D drug prices instead of the GOP idea that forces seniors to pay full retail price for their medicines. Ending those insane “unfunded” spending programs and negotiating for lower Medicare Part D drug prices would leave us with the funds we need to help improve our social programs and also rebuild America’s crumbling infrastructure. If you want my opinion, Ron Wyden is in bed with the devil. I suggest that Ron Wyden had better be very careful about the company he keeps.

  4. The US is entering a phase of delusion fueled by a patriotic hangover of our “greatness” achieved by the greatest generation of WWII. In the US today we like to say we are the “best” but we find ways to hire workers part-time so we don’t have to (and can’t afford to) pay health benefits. And this is the workforce we expect to make us great. We start wars so we can get a “patriotic high” without taking into account what an unfunded $805 billion war cost the welfare of this country. Lobbyists rule in Washington making puppets out of representatives. I just don’t know when it became so unpatriotic to care about creating a system in which the health and welfare of our citizenry are priorities. If we can’t figure out how to do this and be responsible capitalists at the same time then we are not the greatest in the world. We should stop kidding ourselves and come down from our patriotic high. It’s not real. Previous generations earned “the best in the world.” Not this crop of Americans.